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| [L-R] Crosby Fitzgerald as CAROLINE, Luke Bracey as CHARLES, Skywalker Hughes as MARY, Alice Halsey as LAURA |
It’s time for another little podcast on the prairie. Steve Barnes and I meet up to chat about the new version of Little House on the Prairie coming to Netflix on July 9, 2026. We’ve both seen all 8 episodes of season 1 but are sworn to secrecy about our reactions until the official release. Find all of my Little House content.
In this preview podcast, we talk about how the series came to be and the showrunners, the cast members who will show up in the roles, what we see in the trailer, and some social media gossip we eavesdropped on. This sneak peek is just for people who want to get ready for the new series.
Steve Barnes is guitarist for stoner metal band Introvoid, and also plays guitar for the cover band Rebecca Crow. All of Steve's stuff can be found atSweetchildoftime.com.
Lindsey Dunn is a film critic with membership in both NC Film Critics and Southeastern Film Critics. Her interests include indie horror, complicated relationships, and the intersection between cinema and faith. You can find her channels on her linktree: @1ofmystories.
Lindsey Dunn is a film critic with membership in both NC Film Critics and Southeastern Film Critics. Her interests include indie horror, complicated relationships, and the intersection between cinema and faith. You can find her channels on her linktree: @1ofmystories.
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| [L-R] Wren Zhawenim Gotts as GOOD EAGLE, Alice Halsey as LAURA |
00:02.20
Lindsey
Hello, I'm Lindsey of the 1 of My Stories podcast.
00:06.30
Steve Barnes
And I'm Steve Barnes of the Sweet Child of Time podcast.
00:10.62
Lindsey
And this is our anticipatory discussion of the upcoming Little House on the Prairie 2026 remake that's coming out on Netflix July 9th.
00:15.45
Steve Barnes
the
00:21.41
Steve Barnes
July 9th.
00:22.01
Lindsey
Yes, we have the date correct, finally.
00:25.40
Steve Barnes
Finally.
00:27.48
Lindsey
Just to recap what we've done so far, at the end of May, we both released a podcast discussion about the original Little House series.
00:35.66
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
00:35.77
Lindsey
And then just last week, we got to interview Jocko Sims.
00:40.38
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
00:40.57
Lindsey
So you can go back and listen to both of those on our mutual podcast feeds. But today we are just talking about the new series coming to Netflix on July 9th, which we just said.
00:54.33
Lindsey
And as Jocko Sims stressed to us, and we will now stress to you, that this new show is a faithful adaptation of the books as opposed to a television reboot.
01:08.02
Lindsey
So all of you haters, just know that they're not trying to recreate Michael Landon's vision.
01:13.89
Steve Barnes
I know.
01:17.27
Lindsey
And we are sworn to secrecy. Until that date, July 9th, about what we...
01:21.34
Steve Barnes
Right.
01:24.89
Lindsey
We both watched the show, full disclosure, we have both watched it.
01:27.53
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
01:30.36
Lindsey
But for this first episode here, which is our pre-show discussion, we're only going to talk about... We're not going to give you any spoilers or tell you even what our reactions of the show...
01:38.67
Steve Barnes
Nope.
01:43.37
Steve Barnes
We're not allowed to.
01:44.57
Lindsey
Right...
01:45.08
Steve Barnes
but
01:46.36
Lindsey
So we're we're just going to tell you about some kind of news that we think might be beneficial to you about the show, things about the cast and et cetera, et cetera.
01:57.72
Lindsey
And how did this even get made in the first place? Hmm.
02:01.33
Steve Barnes
That's right. Yeah. I guess that's where I can come in. And I'll also say that like the trailer, I think two separate trailers and two separate teasers have been released at this point. So watching those, you learn, you can learn a lot just from watching those trailers. And we're going to go over like pretty much everything that,
02:20.47
Steve Barnes
you can see and ascertain from those trailers. But yeah, Little House is on the rise right now because i think the main reason is the 50th anniversary.
02:32.58
Steve Barnes
2024 marked the 50th anniversary of Little House coming on our television sets. And along with that 50th anniversary, they've really been i mean, they've been amping up towards this, this reboot.
02:44.86
Steve Barnes
But in addition to that, they've um they've added things like the Little House 24 hour channel. Like if you have Pluto TV or Roku or I believe there is one more of those type channels like that.
02:59.90
Steve Barnes
um they You can just pop on Little House of the Prairie.
03:00.22
Lindsey
Thank you.
03:03.47
Steve Barnes
They have a 24 hour channel where they just stream it. And you can just, you'll just pop in at any time they play them in order. So, I mean, if you want to make your own, um you know, marathon watch of Little House, you can just pop on Pluto a TV and pop in anytime.
03:20.60
Lindsey
Absolutely. It's like a law and order marathon around here. I mean, any you can stop, you know, go to any hotel, you can pretty much know that law and order, law and order sv they're all going to be available.
03:26.68
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
03:32.92
Lindsey
And in fact, Steve, like, I think it's, you brought up the fact that it's on the rise and that there's a 50th anniversary. And I think we probably saw the same thing today that on the Facebook group, some people that have gone on
03:39.68
Steve Barnes
That's
03:49.62
Lindsey
a trip or some kind of convention or something actually got the opportunity to watch the first episode of the new show. So there's some, there have been some people that have seen it.
03:59.83
Steve Barnes
like right
04:02.62
Lindsey
We, they are not as cool as us where we've seen all of it, but they there have been some people that this point have seen the first episode or telling the world their opinions. They're not critics.
04:12.81
Steve Barnes
Oh, yeah.
04:13.17
Lindsey
So they don't, they don't aren't beholden to the same rules that we are. But I'll toss it back to you. I just wanted to interject that in case people are hearing that, oh, yeah, this person said they watched it.
04:21.40
Steve Barnes
oh yeah
04:24.86
Lindsey
Some people have seen the first episode now if they're attending these anniversary events.
04:30.55
Steve Barnes
Yeah, like those red carpet things. I saw, yeah, did see the same post, the person.
04:32.55
Lindsey
Mm-hmm.
04:34.87
Steve Barnes
And yeah, she she gave her opinion there. And I don't know if she saw the whole series or just saw a couple of episodes. And we've seen the whole series a couple of times.
04:42.21
Lindsey
One
04:45.46
Steve Barnes
And I wanted to shout you out, Lindsey, before I get too far into things, because something that our listeners don't know is during that Jocko interview, we only released like a six minute interview, but the interview was like 15 20 minutes long.
04:59.10
Steve Barnes
And in the middle of the interview, while we were recording, Jocko Sims asked me directly like what I thought about the series and if I liked it or not. And I was just ready to answer him and get all into it.
05:12.46
Steve Barnes
And Lindsey put up the stop sign and was like, no, Ryan said not to do that. so thank you very much for doing that, because otherwise I would have blabbed to everyone in the world about what I thought about it.
05:24.89
Steve Barnes
So I'm glad had for that.
05:26.45
Lindsey
I would have just edited it. just would have edited it out of the podcast, Steve. I had your back. I had your back.
05:31.77
Steve Barnes
That's true. All right. Well, you have it back from the get-go because you stopped even Jocko because I think you know both of us were like, oh, we're running off of the mouth a little too much here. um But yeah, this whole anniversary thing, we can thank the friendly family for this because the friendly family, um I can't remember the fellow's first name, but um the rights to the series got...
05:53.05
Steve Barnes
passed down to, let's say, Mr. Friendly. And Trip Friendly, oh no, no, Trip Friendly is the son.
05:55.79
Lindsey
Trip.
05:58.94
Steve Barnes
There was an original, friend Ed Friendly, there we go.
05:59.44
Lindsey
Right. Ed.
06:02.22
Steve Barnes
So when Ed Friendly passed away, he passed the rights on to his son, Trip. And Trip is a big fan of the Little House franchise and of the books too. And so,
06:13.75
Steve Barnes
I think he's kind of spearheaded this production. And besides him, i assume that Trip Friendly is a male. Besides him, all the names and the executive producers and the directors and writers and stuff are all female.
06:27.86
Steve Barnes
We got Rebecca Sonensheim is going to be the showrunner and executive producer. And it doesn't say on here, but I'm pretty sure she directs a couple episodes too. And the other executive producers are Joy Gorman Weddles for the Joy Coalition, Dana Fox, Susanna Fogle. And then we got Trip Friendly from the Friendly Family Productions is what they're called.
06:53.18
Lindsey
That's right. And about this reboot, this is what what this is what a good old buddy Trip Friendly had to say. Isn't that a nice name, Trip Friendly?
07:01.69
Steve Barnes
Absolutely.
07:01.72
Lindsey
i mean,
07:02.09
Steve Barnes
you should be a country singer.
07:03.83
Lindsey
but it has been a long-held dream of mine to carry on my father's legacy and adapt Wilder's classic American stories for a 21st century audience in a way that brings together fans of both the books and the original television series, said Trip Friendly in a statement.
07:22.81
Lindsey
I am thrilled by our talented creative team led by Rebecca Sonnenschein, who are bringing these beloved stories about family, community, and survival to longtime fans and new generations.
07:37.53
Lindsey
And you might be saying to yourself, my father's legacy, who is this trip-friendly guy either? Is he related to Michael Landon and just had a name change? Well, we already mentioned Ed Friendly, that the lu kind name dropped him.
07:52.98
Lindsey
ah So. Trip Friendly's father, Ed, secured the TV and movie rights to the Wilder note novels that led to the NBC drama in 1974.
08:04.04
Lindsey
So it was Ed Friendly who originally had this vision and he and Michael Landon were a partnership and apparently creative differences between them soured their relationship over time.
08:17.29
Lindsey
And he.
08:17.73
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
08:19.32
Lindsey
remained an executive producer, but kind of distanced himself from the production. Now, so there must there might be some juicy gossip in here somewhere, but we're not going to go there and spend too much time with that.
08:26.88
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
08:35.72
Lindsey
But just not to let you know, the Friendly Family has been with the Little House series from the beginning, apparently, even though probably nobody would Nobody can name him.
08:47.17
Lindsey
Everybody can name Michael Landon. So I just think it's neat that there's, you know, I guess what I would say about all this is that there are always many people that are responsible for a thing coming to pass.
09:02.08
Lindsey
And, but often only one person gets the fame and the glory, just like with Twin Peaks, you know, there was David Lynch and then there was,
09:02.44
Steve Barnes
I
09:13.91
Lindsey
The other guy, which I can't remember saying. I think his name is Mark something. Mark Frost, I think is his name. No relation to Ben Frost.
09:22.74
Steve Barnes
i was just getting ready to ask you that.
09:23.01
Lindsey
Yeah. yeah
09:24.22
Steve Barnes
But yeah, I think Twin Peaks, I think David Lynch alone. That's right.
09:27.19
Lindsey
<unk> That's right. So just just keep that in mind. is Trip Friendly has a connection. It's almost like the Beach Boys. You know, you've got the Wilson brothers.
09:36.57
Steve Barnes
Yes.
09:36.66
Lindsey
And then you've got, again, that Mike Love.
09:38.42
Steve Barnes
Mike love.
09:40.54
Lindsey
Thank you, Mike Love. And there was creative differences, but they're both still talking about the Beach Boys and representing the Beach Boys in their own way.
09:49.21
Steve Barnes
okay
09:52.54
Steve Barnes
Yeah. And Ed friendly kind of gets his, um, panache from working with Rose Wilder, who was the, um, the editor of all these books. So yeah, he's been in it way longer than 1974.
10:05.00
Lindsey
Mm-hmm.
10:05.17
Steve Barnes
um But yeah, I guess at this point, I'm going to talk about hopefully the show because i want to discuss like the real history of the Ingalls and the real history of the Ingalls family is followed pretty faithfully in Laura's books.
10:12.08
Lindsey
Yeah.
10:21.01
Steve Barnes
She kind of glosses over some moves and sometimes she doesn't even mention where they are. And you just kind of have to like know by i association or research, like what state they're in.
10:33.56
Steve Barnes
But she started her life in Wisconsin. They were a quartet and they lived in the little house in the big woods. And in 1869, Charles Ingalls sold that house so they could move to Independence, Kansas, which is where he heard that there was going to be a land opportunity for you know farmers.
10:55.54
Steve Barnes
And so they moved to Independence, kansas Kansas, and they had their third daughter, Carrie, there in 1870. So that deal with the house that he sold in Wisconsin fell through pretty quickly, actually. So they had to move back to their Wisconsin home, back to the little house in the big woods. And they remained there until 1873.
11:21.28
Steve Barnes
1873 is when they left the little house in the big woods with little Carrie and they went to plum Creek. And that is where we know about the little, we know about plum Creek because that's where Walnut Grove is.
11:34.30
Steve Barnes
The TV series is based there. And then that third book in the series, which is called little house on the Prairie is based there, but they only lived there for about two years.
11:45.18
Steve Barnes
um They moved to Minnesota in 1874. And then after two years of failed crops, they briefly moved. I'm sorry.
11:56.82
Steve Barnes
Whatever, 1874, they stayed with Carolyn's brother, Peter, briefly in Minnesota. And then in 1876, they moved to Iowa where they ran a hotel.
12:08.09
Steve Barnes
Charles was like the town butcher and the justice of the peace there. it Sounds like he had like some cool jobs and he had like some panache or like some, um I don't know, some elevation in the community, but we know from history that the family was always pretty destitute and poor. So sometimes it sounds like he had like a cool job, like he ran a hotel or he was a justice of the peace, but he was still always living hand to mouth. The family was, um, but they lived in there in Iowa for three years, 1879, they moved to their final home and dismiss South Dakota. And that's where they all retired.
12:45.88
Steve Barnes
So, um, Yeah, where what we know from this story is we see from the trailer that they start in a little house in the big woods, which is where everything always starts. And then their journey begins.
13:01.40
Lindsey
Right. So, you know, the the upcoming season will least have the independence. And, you know, I said but but we're already talking about the old show, but interestingly enough, that pilot episode of the original Little House series, that was the independence episode.
13:21.37
Lindsey
So that first pilot episode is what we're seeing covered in these in these books, you know, um So or at least, you know, that's, we know there's independence.
13:36.79
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
13:37.01
Lindsey
It's in the trailer. It's what I'm trying to say.
13:38.39
Steve Barnes
Yes. They shout it out loud. They're like, the town of Independence. It's like, they make it pretty obvious that's where they are.
13:44.18
Lindsey
Yeah.
13:45.86
Steve Barnes
So nobody's like fooled that they're like in Walnut Grove.
13:48.06
Lindsey
Yeah. So again, but even though they have that, Steve, in the trailer and everybody can see it, again, we so we already have people that are complaining that oh, where's Nellie Olsen?
14:01.96
Lindsey
Where's this? Where's that? And it's like, well, they weren't in Independence. They were in Walnut Grove. So maybe they're not go they're not in Walnut Grove yet.
14:12.63
Lindsey
you know so let's
14:13.37
Steve Barnes
Yeah, exactly.
14:15.16
Lindsey
But are you saying that Charles, we so used we saw him in the books being a butcher? Or is that just a known history that they...
14:22.54
Steve Barnes
That's a known history. I've yet to see him be a butcher in the books. I'm on book eight right now, and he is still not a butcher yet, and they're not in Iowa yet either.
14:26.94
Lindsey
Okay. Okay.
14:30.87
Lindsey
ah
14:31.34
Steve Barnes
So I guess that happens later on.
14:31.54
Lindsey
i was I was thinking it was going to be a Gangs of New York, Bill the Butcher situation.
14:33.12
Steve Barnes
Ooh.
14:36.54
Lindsey
That's not going to happen with Charles, I guess.
14:39.06
Steve Barnes
He's like the opposite of Bill the Butcher there, right?
14:40.22
Lindsey
it
14:43.61
Lindsey
yeah
14:43.77
Steve Barnes
He would charm the socks off that guy.
14:48.09
Lindsey
Okay, so, yeah.
14:48.31
Steve Barnes
But yeah, we're, we're going to be like, Oh, I was, I was going to lead us on to the next thing we were going to talk about. Cause we, um we know that the characters, yeah.
14:54.65
Lindsey
Talking about the characters next? Is that what you're, yeah.
14:56.74
Steve Barnes
The cast of characters.
14:57.17
Lindsey
Yeah. Okay, so yeah, we're gonna I'm going to talk about some characters we've probably known about before a first, and who's playing them. and okay so the first character is Charles Ingalls, of course, and he in this show is played by Luke Bracey.
15:18.48
Lindsey
Luke is from Australia, and you may have seen him in movies like Elvis, Hacksaw Ridge and a very young Luke Bracey was in The Best of Me. One of those Nicholas Sparks adaptations where he's a real dreamboat.
15:37.65
Steve Barnes
Oh.
15:38.58
Lindsey
Steve's giving me a blank look.
15:40.25
Steve Barnes
Yeah, i've I've never seen any of these movies. i don't i
15:43.06
Lindsey
You never, have you seen, have you seen The Notebook?
15:43.22
Steve Barnes
Actually, i don't I don't know any of these actors at all.
15:46.99
Lindsey
That's a Nicholas Sparks, The Notebook.
15:48.60
Steve Barnes
Oh, yeah, of course.
15:48.71
Lindsey
You heard of that one?
15:49.64
Steve Barnes
Of course I have.
15:50.33
Lindsey
You know, it's all moving to a small town, falling in love.
15:50.64
Steve Barnes
um um
15:53.05
Lindsey
It doesn't work out. Then they, There's a tragic, you know, kind of ending.
15:54.65
Steve Barnes
hey
15:59.13
Lindsey
But no spoilers on that. But anyway, he was in the best of me. Just just know that. that
16:05.02
Steve Barnes
And he has a beard. I mean, that's great.
16:07.51
Lindsey
He has a beard.
16:07.70
Steve Barnes
that Me.
16:08.59
Lindsey
That's something that seems very important to all the bearded people in the room right now.
16:14.07
Steve Barnes
yes
16:17.08
Lindsey
Yeah. And honestly, most of the cast, most of the cast, you may be like, I'm not sure I know who that is. And they did we get the press sheets. They tell us where else they've been bit in But I'm not really going to mention that unless I'm like, oh, yeah, most people would probably be familiar with that. So Carolyn is played by Crosby Fitzgerald.
16:42.33
Lindsey
i you know She has some credits. I was not familiar with any of her roles.
16:47.41
Steve Barnes
Yeah, me neither.
16:47.58
Lindsey
One of the things that's notable about her is that she is a redhead. And some people really like red hair. I do. And, ah yeah.
16:56.48
Steve Barnes
I should hope so.
16:57.34
Lindsey
yeah
16:58.39
Steve Barnes
hu
16:59.93
Lindsey
I don't know. For some reason, in the dark discord, they all call me red. They think I'm a redhead or something, ah which i don't I don't know if they're all colorblind or what. But, yeah, Crosby Fitzgerald please plays Ma Ingalls or Carolyn.
17:14.43
Steve Barnes
Oh, fun fact about Crosby, that person you mentioned before that went and saw the premiere got herself a selfie with Crosby Fitzgerald. I was like, heck yeah.
17:21.21
Lindsey
That's right.
17:21.69
Steve Barnes
I wish I was you right now.
17:23.60
Lindsey
That's right. Oh, okay. You want to hang out with Crosby, huh?
17:26.61
Steve Barnes
Yeah. Why not? mean, she seems cool to me.
17:27.64
Lindsey
no
17:28.85
Steve Barnes
i mean, I don't know. i haven't seen her work yet. I don't know. Yeah.
17:32.09
Lindsey
Yeah. Okay. Mary, older sister Mary is played by Skywalker Hughes. Now, was were her parents Star Wars fans? I'm not sure. That's kind of a cool name, Skywalker. I haven't heard that before.
17:48.73
Steve Barnes
I never have either. And I can only assume that her parents were Scott. I mean, we're, we're star Wars fans. If they weren't star Wars fans, then they're very susceptible to pop culture.
17:59.90
Steve Barnes
ah
18:00.90
Lindsey
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So no, um yeah, no, not necessarily, you know, Mary was known for her, maybe not as much as Nellie was known for her blonde locks, but Mary was in the show, she was known for her blonde hair.
18:15.39
Lindsey
And in this, in this case, she's got sort of like more of ah a chestnut brown or sort of a blonde brown mix.
18:16.76
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
18:22.84
Lindsey
So they, they're obviously not feeling beholden at all to follow the archetypes of what these people have looked like up to this point.
18:32.92
Steve Barnes
Sure, I mean, I think at best we might call her hair dirty blonde, but I think it might even be too brown for that.
18:33.62
Lindsey
Yeah.
18:39.20
Steve Barnes
um But you know, she has the viage the visage of ah of a Mary Ingalls, I would say, you know.
18:46.10
Lindsey
hu Then we have Laura, dear little Laura, played by Alice Halsey.
18:54.84
Steve Barnes
I love her look. I think, I think they nailed the casting with her. Um, cause you know, I can talk freely cause everybody's seen the trailers by now. And I just think she nails the look of Laura and she's really small. And Laura is famously very small as well, like a four foot 10 woman. So I'm on board with this casting.
19:14.24
Lindsey
Hmm. Okay. We also have John Edwards.
19:20.18
Steve Barnes
Yeah, buddy.
19:21.21
Lindsey
Our Mr. Edwards played by Warren Christie. He's from Ireland and he seems to be very beloved on the Hallmark channel. He's played a lot of roles, but he's been in some soap operas.
19:35.06
Lindsey
He's been in some Hallmark channel um romances.
19:36.18
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
19:39.64
Lindsey
So, so ah Apparently, everybody thinks he's very handsome because they're casting him as love interest.
19:49.18
Steve Barnes
I mean, I think he's handsome. Do you? I mean, you're a female of the species. Do you but think he's handsome, a handsome man or not? Just kind of average.
19:56.72
Lindsey
I think he's okay. I think he's okay.
19:58.61
Steve Barnes
Yeah, he's okay.
19:59.57
Lindsey
He's not exactly my my type, but ah I think he's...
19:59.65
Steve Barnes
You're okay, Warren.
20:07.69
Lindsey
It's interesting that, you know, in the original show, Mr. Edwards was kind of a, you know, very much a grisly codger type. And this guy's relatively good looking.
20:16.54
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
20:20.15
Lindsey
So, yeah, just casting differences.
20:22.29
Steve Barnes
I think. I kind of think that, I mean, the original Mr. Edwards was, of course, Isaiah Edwards, and they named this Edwards John Edwards, which is, um I believe Isaiah Edwards had a son named John Edwards.
20:31.99
Lindsey
Yeah.
20:38.43
Steve Barnes
So we can we can take some liberty there.
20:39.00
Lindsey
ohha Yeah.
20:40.95
Steve Barnes
I'm not sure why they chose to go with the name change, but I don't think it really matters because in the books, he was only known as Mr. Edwards. They never said his first name.
20:48.28
Lindsey
Yeah. Yeah.
20:50.01
Steve Barnes
And I kind of think this guy, i think he does a passing job of, um I know he's not supposed to be the TV show, the original series, but I don't know. i i kind of think he did a passing job. He wasn't nowhere near as goofy.
21:04.85
Steve Barnes
I shouldn't be saying too much here.
21:06.42
Lindsey
That's right. You really shouldn't.
21:08.89
Steve Barnes
as
21:09.08
Lindsey
Edit all that out, James, or whoever's doing editing on this, you know.
21:13.14
Steve Barnes
No, leave it in there. Leave it in there. I like John Edwards.
21:16.44
Lindsey
we don't We can't really talk about what we thought of these of them as actors. Just more like what they've done before. Okay.
21:23.90
Steve Barnes
I'm just basing everything off the trailer. You know what saying?
21:25.50
Lindsey
Okay, great.
21:26.45
Steve Barnes
That's it.
21:28.76
Lindsey
We also have Dr. Tan, of course, which we've already talked about, Jocko Sims, friend of the show.
21:31.19
Steve Barnes
Of course. Friend of the show, we can say now.
21:36.43
Lindsey
Yeah. And some of his notable roles are Dr. Floyd Reynolds from the show New Amsterdam. And he also played a role in a show, which I did not bring up during our podcast so that he wouldn't start blushing, but it was called Masters of Sex.
21:43.27
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
21:50.77
Lindsey
I wonder what that show is about. Must be a must.
21:52.89
Steve Barnes
Ooh.
21:54.84
Lindsey
I don't know if it's spicy or what.
21:57.20
Steve Barnes
It's gotta to be, it's got the S-E-X word in it.
22:00.22
Lindsey
It could be. It could be like they're considered masters of sex because they're like, They're studying sex, maybe. You know, it sounds spicier than it is.
22:08.70
Steve Barnes
Oh.
22:10.44
Lindsey
I don't know.
22:12.73
Steve Barnes
My mind's going a different way, but I'll let you continue with the characters from Little House.
22:12.70
Lindsey
add
22:16.86
Lindsey
Okay.
22:17.66
Steve Barnes
but
22:17.82
Lindsey
So then, oh yes. and And I'm talking about, I'm naming characters that are we already know from the books and the show, I guess, to some extent.
22:28.95
Steve Barnes
Yes, that's right.
22:30.58
Lindsey
Okay, so my last one is Adam Scott, which I don't remember him being in the show, so I'm assuming he's just a character in the books.
22:37.24
Steve Barnes
He was not. Yes, that's right.
22:40.22
Lindsey
And he's played by McLean Fish.
22:45.17
Steve Barnes
McLean fish, my dirty fish. but
22:49.66
Lindsey
Now, Steve, now don't be making fun of, try not to make fun of people's names too much, but um but yeah, McLean Fish, again, I didn't see any of his roles that meant anything to me, but, um, so it's nice that we have, we get it, we'll get introduced to this new cast of characters and this for some of them, it'll be maybe their first role where they will get some notoriety.
23:18.89
Steve Barnes
i'm kind of I'm kind of glad that we had like brand new people playing these roles instead of like, you know, maybe Nick Offerman plays Charles Ingalls, you know, I don't know. I'm glad they didn't like get some star power in here. i mean, not that these people aren't stars, but you get my gist that they aren't already known for another role and now they have to fill a new role.
23:42.97
Lindsey
so I have one exception for that, which isn't so much like a particular role, but it's more like a generalization.
23:45.21
Steve Barnes
Sure.
23:51.18
Lindsey
that there are from the In the past couple years, I have met or been exposed to so many wonderful child actors.
24:03.61
Lindsey
and the fact i feel like a lot of times they only get one role and then they kind of disappear.
24:09.59
Steve Barnes
Okay. Okay.
24:10.30
Lindsey
And i I was like, well, they could have with with the children, you know, unless they really wanted somebody, you know, maybe some people maybe some people make the choice that, like, we're going to get pick somebody that's never been in anything before um to give somebody a new opportunity.
24:28.60
Lindsey
But, for instance, like the Welcome to Derry kids, you know, some of them are really good actors, but how long is it going to be before they'll get another role?
24:32.06
Steve Barnes
okay
24:36.73
Lindsey
You know, they kind of, Child actors sometimes get left in the dust. They get one role, they get some some time of fame, and then and then the time is over. So I don't know why. They they maybe could have found some really good child actors. that Not saying these guys aren't good or won't be good, but yeah.
24:55.79
Steve Barnes
I was going to say, I, um, let's see, what's my rebuttal. I do have a rebuttal to that, which is, you know Michael Landon had this vision that little house on the prairie would last forever and be timeless and perhaps trip friendly. It has the same vision.
25:16.68
Steve Barnes
Um, cause it's already been renewed for season two as we speak. I mean, season one hasn't even aired already got a second season, but Maybe they're like really pinning a lot of hopes on this taken off and being multiple seasons and we're going to grow up with this Laura like we grew up with the other Laura, perhaps.
25:33.91
Steve Barnes
Maybe that's their ambition and they won't meet it, but maybe they will meet it. I mean, that's my rebuttal.
25:39.86
Lindsey
Okay. Well, it's not exactly a rebuttal. Rebuttal means an argument. You're more saying, on the other hand, so which could be a rebuttal?
25:50.23
Steve Barnes
I will.
25:50.22
Lindsey
I'm rebutting your rebuttal.
25:50.63
Steve Barnes
i will argue.
25:51.82
Lindsey
I'm rebutting your rebut.
25:51.96
Steve Barnes
i will argue with you. Let's argue instead. Let's argue about the new characters.
25:56.92
Lindsey
Yeah, let's talk about the new characters.
26:00.15
Steve Barnes
Yeah, I got that in my queue here. And I didn't do the cool thing that Lindsey did and looked up where everybody else is from. So maybe Lindsey can chime in if she knows any of these new folks.
26:11.22
Steve Barnes
These are going to be new characters that are... um that i've Since I've read the books and I've seen the original series, these are all brand new characters that have never, their names have never been uttered before. So let's meet them.
26:24.44
Steve Barnes
um First up, we have Eli and Gemma, I'm sorry, Eli and Gemma James. And they're kind of like the the head of this town. Eli is... um
26:37.99
Steve Barnes
We're not exactly sure what he is, but, but he seems like somebody in charge and his wife sure likes to do that too. And they're played by Michael whole. How do you say this last name?
26:49.08
Lindsey
Ho.
26:50.05
Steve Barnes
Oh, I did it right. And Mary Holland. And Mary Holland is the only actor on this show that I recognize from anything previous, because I'm a big fan of um improv comedy. And she, of course, is part of the Wild Horses comedy troupe, along with Lauren Lapkus and others.
27:07.99
Steve Barnes
And I'm just a big fan of Mary Holland, period. So I'm glad to see her in this show. We have a character named Emily Henderson, which is running the store at this town of Independence.
27:21.62
Steve Barnes
And I did not catch the actress's name. It's not on.
27:25.35
Lindsey
Barrett Doss.
27:26.97
Steve Barnes
There you go. That's what we got Lindsey for.
27:27.97
Lindsey
Barrett Doss.
27:28.81
Steve Barnes
I
27:29.85
Lindsey
And she's actually had some notable roles, but I didn't write them down because it was your, this was your gig, your part. So.
27:38.60
Steve Barnes
failed everybody.
27:38.97
Lindsey
but
27:39.80
Steve Barnes
Just um everybody.
27:41.30
Lindsey
Oh, she was in she was in one of those, um ah medical drama. I can't remember which one, but it wasn't yeah ER. Grey's Anatomy.
27:49.78
Steve Barnes
Okay.
27:49.85
Lindsey
She, as the, in one of the later seasons,
27:52.55
Steve Barnes
I watched that one. Yeah.
27:53.50
Lindsey
She's a recurring character. So she seems to have some some creds to her name already.
27:59.26
Steve Barnes
All right. and We got another child actor here. We got a young boy named Caleb and he's played by Cohen. caoreth There we go. a new character named William Mitchell, and he is going to be played by Meegwin Fairbrother. Now these next few characters, these next four characters, including William Mitchell, are playing some of our Osage characters.
28:24.73
Steve Barnes
um So William Mitchell is the the head of that family. His wife is White Sun. She's played by Alyssa Wipanatak. why pan attack Sorry for the pronunciations stumbles here.
28:38.78
Steve Barnes
They have a daughter named Good Eagle and she's played by Ren Gata. And there's also another Osage character named Little Puma played by Xander Cole.
28:50.58
Steve Barnes
And last, we have a new female character named Lacey Obear. She's played by Rebecca Amzelag. So I hope some of those names might ring a bell for you. They did not for me, but we're going to see what these new characters are up to.
29:07.58
Steve Barnes
But yeah, we got the trailer in the teaser, so that might give us some clues about what's happening here. So i'm I just kind of pointed out maybe like 10 or 12 things from the trailer that we noticed that might have some significance.
29:21.69
Steve Barnes
um So yeah, you wanna take that away, Lindsey?
29:24.92
Lindsey
Sure. Well, we have we have a dog that...
29:28.41
Steve Barnes
Yes.
29:28.47
Lindsey
did Did they say Jack or we just like, there's a dog, it must be Jack?
29:33.53
Steve Barnes
we're We're like, there's a dog. It must be Jack. That's what we're doing.
29:37.27
Lindsey
Yeah, because we can't have we can't have the we can't have the wagon journey without Jack.
29:37.65
Steve Barnes
We're hoping his name is Jack.
29:43.78
Lindsey
So we saw the family dog and we're going name him Jack regardless of what they call him.
29:44.38
Steve Barnes
Exactly.
29:50.33
Lindsey
We're going name him Jack.
29:51.96
Steve Barnes
And he looks closer to the the the real Jack in real life too than the TV Jack, which was like a big shaggy dog.
29:52.15
Lindsey
ah
30:01.24
Lindsey
and We also saw them traveling from the big woods in response to an ad for free land.
30:07.64
Steve Barnes
Yeah. Free, right? Yeah. that's what the government says. Yeah. We see them out on the homestead. We see them building a home that we see like some, some saws going down and some logs getting piled up.
30:22.17
Steve Barnes
And at one point we actually see inside the Ingalls home. So we can see like their little tiny little log cabin there. And we see them like nice little spinning scene there.
30:33.40
Lindsey
Yeah, Charles has to be carrying Carolyn over the threshold ah some kind.
30:38.87
Steve Barnes
Always.
30:39.64
Lindsey
Yeah.
30:39.99
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
30:40.95
Lindsey
ah We then see the town of Independence, sort of an upward pan over the town, watching people walking by.
30:47.94
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
30:51.35
Lindsey
up They're raising a church and Charles seems to be leading the fray.
30:57.24
Steve Barnes
Oh, of course, always. He's going to lead us in prayer. He's going to lead us in church. He's going to lead me to heaven. um
31:05.29
Lindsey
you
31:07.61
Steve Barnes
We see Laura always, the... the you know, always the curious one. We see her like eyeballing some Osage kids and there seem to be smiling at each other.
31:19.32
Steve Barnes
And, um, straight from the book and from the original series, we see them playing baseball. They love the beginning. Uh, that's like their big thing. It's like anytime you see the the adults playing a sport, it's almost always baseball.
31:33.82
Lindsey
Right, but it's not vampire baseball.
31:36.60
Steve Barnes
Thank God. That was maybe one of the silliest moments of cinema history.
31:44.28
Lindsey
At the time, thought it was awesome.
31:46.49
Steve Barnes
i did too.
31:46.55
Lindsey
Okay.
31:47.21
Steve Barnes
That's the sad thing about it. We're of course talking about what movie is that from? I can't even remember the name of the movie.
31:52.72
Lindsey
Twilight.
31:53.99
Steve Barnes
We're talking about the twilight scene. Anyway, what else we got?
31:55.58
Lindsey
Sparkly vampires. So... Another thing we see in this trailer, very informative trailer, is the Osage in full paint.
32:07.70
Lindsey
Is it now?
32:07.87
Steve Barnes
Yes.
32:09.88
Lindsey
Some people might think, oh, war paint. But it might just be ceremonial paint.
32:14.61
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
32:15.06
Lindsey
It might be decorative paint.
32:17.58
Steve Barnes
That's right.
32:17.66
Lindsey
But they're they're representing their tribe with within their way.
32:24.28
Steve Barnes
Yes.
32:25.69
Lindsey
We also see Mary talking to a boy.
32:30.14
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm. Too soon to be Adam, probably, but talking to some boy, yeah.
32:36.92
Steve Barnes
See some fiddle playing. um So that's cool. We know that Charles is ah is a fiddle player. And... Maybe this new Charles Ingalls might be able to to vamp, play and fiddle a little better than Michael Plana did. I don't know. We'll see. We'll judge him on that.
32:52.28
Steve Barnes
um We see Dr. Tan. We see the black doctor. So we we can only assume it's Dr. Tan. And since we've interviewed him, I mean, it's pretty obvious it's Dr. Tan. um So instead of Doc Baker, because, you know, he's over in Walnut Grove, maybe. He's a fictional character. Dr. Tan's a real guy and he's here. And that's nice he's represented.
33:14.12
Lindsey
Oh, we only see two young'uns, Ingalls people, though, so...
33:19.24
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
33:20.48
Lindsey
We're all wondering where is Carrie? Is she, is she hanging out in the wagon? is she down the well, the mine shaft, waiting to be rescued?
33:25.91
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
33:30.98
Steve Barnes
Nailed to the roof, perhaps.
00:02.17
Lindsey
Okay, so besides this whole Carrie absence, there were a few things in the trailer that I noticed that we haven't said yet. One was there were wolves.
00:14.71
Lindsey
There seemed to be an illness of some kind. somebodys People are getting sick. We see that.
00:19.73
Steve Barnes
OK.
00:20.33
Lindsey
And just hard times in general. that It's not all fun and games. It's not all fun and baseball and fiddle playing. This is kind of a hard a hard trip they're having.
00:32.82
Lindsey
But they also, we also saw a holiday dinner of some kind. The family was sitting around a table with some new friends. And that was exciting for me because I always liked, I always liked the episodes where they, the Ingalls family were celebrating in, in the old ways and doing things like, you know, getting excited about an orange or a tin cup and things.
00:42.61
Steve Barnes
okay
00:59.51
Lindsey
seeing how some of the foods they might eat or some of the traditions they might have at that time. So I thought that was something to look forward to.
01:07.80
Steve Barnes
Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it. um I know that there're they're definitely going to get into the Osage land dispute um because you know we know that Charles was drawn out there to independence because there was supposedly some free land, but Maybe that's the case. We know in real life that what that didn't quite work out great for the Ingalls family. So we're going to see that going down, I suppose.
01:34.66
Steve Barnes
um And yeah, like you were saying about this town of independence, they show like a ah nice overhead shot of it. And it looks like the town is pretty um organized. It's pretty, it's a pretty.
01:46.66
Steve Barnes
It's a real community. I'm not sure if there's a railroad or a post office there, but there's definitely like a hotel. There's definitely a store. So we got, we were going to have some town folk to hang out with. And plus, you know, all those kids in town that we saw the boy, the, the other, the Osage girl, hopefully, hopefully the kids will have some other kids to play with and we'll have some fun in this show.
02:11.44
Lindsey
Mm-hmm.
02:13.03
Steve Barnes
um I'm looking forward to it. I mean, I've already seen it, but I'm looking forward to everybody looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to some dialogue on Facebook, hopefully turning um positive. I'm i'm I'm ready for anything with the general public. Sometimes I get surprised in a bad way with how people perceive things, um but I'm going to remain positive. I'm going to remain hopeful that we're going to have many seasons of this show because i like I like the Little House franchise in general, and that's pretty much all I got to say. um I'm just looking forward to continuing on.
02:52.94
Steve Barnes
And Lindsey, any follow-up thoughts or anything but take us out here?
02:57.62
Lindsey
Yeah, I wanted to mention something that I saw on the Wikipedia page, which I thought was interesting, that I hadn't seen yet.
03:06.49
Steve Barnes
Okay.
03:06.55
Lindsey
And it gets into something we've heard or sort of talked about amongst ourselves or seen other people talk about, is there's this fear that that it's going to be a woke show.
03:18.71
Lindsey
And I thought it was interesting that on January 29th,
03:24.29
Lindsey
2025, there was a tweet from someone named Megan Kelly, who is ah some kind of political commentator.
03:31.87
Steve Barnes
Yeah, I'm well aware. Yes.
03:33.14
Lindsey
Okay. I had never heard of her before. And um so she wrote this post.
03:35.66
Steve Barnes
Okay. I'm sorry.
03:39.23
Lindsey
walk Why are you saying you're sorry? i It wasn't.
03:41.69
Steve Barnes
because Now you know who she is.
03:43.43
Lindsey
but but
03:44.08
Steve Barnes
luck.
03:46.04
Lindsey
um So she she said, Netflix, if you woke-ify a Little House on the Prairie, I will make it my singular mission to absolutely ruin your project.
03:55.00
Steve Barnes
good luck
03:56.57
Lindsey
And and i thought it was i thought it was nice that a lot of the Little House cast got on and responded to her tweet.
04:07.66
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
04:08.02
Lindsey
ah um Allison Argram Dean Butler and Melissa Gilbert all responded in different ways. But ah Alison Argram says, the original show was about as woke as you could get for 1974.
04:16.77
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
04:23.25
Steve Barnes
That's right.
04:23.45
Lindsey
We dealt with everything on Little House in the Prairie, from drug addiction to racism to sexism to spousal abuse, women's rights.
04:31.19
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
04:32.22
Lindsey
We had we had the episode where the women held out for right to own property. Every possible cutting edge social issue was absolutely discussed. but it was done in such a little house in the prairie, what would the Ingalls do kind of way, that I think people just didn't even think of it as being a big deal.
04:49.43
Lindsey
And so we sort of talked about this a little bit, like the fact that it's thought of as this cozy drama, yet there's all of these social issues represented, even sexual assault.
05:01.91
Lindsey
She didn't even say that in her tweet, but we you know the the episode with the the creepy mask where the girl gets sexually assaulted.
05:04.98
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
05:10.02
Lindsey
And the wisdom of Solomon. So back then there were absolutely these social issues being dealt with in these episodes. And so ah some of that shows up. That's not going to be a surprise. But I mean, I saw somebody say, well, that's not woke.
05:28.76
Lindsey
is You know, but we don't what we don't want is a gay couple. It's like.
05:35.89
Lindsey
It's all about that one, you know. So I don't know. i just I just, thought it was, I thought it was interesting that this was represented well and that the cast is the ones that kind of rushed to the defense and, and said that, Hey, we're worse that we are in support of not just our show, but we're supporting this new show.
05:54.16
Steve Barnes
Mm-hmm.
05:59.60
Lindsey
that we think that like none of the cast is saying, why are they remaking our show? You know, they're they're excited and interested. And so we should we should be too and at least give it a chance. Now, that doesn't mean that we're going to love it. But just just on the fact that just and that just because it's being made, it shouldn't be a precious thing that nobody that nobody can touch. Like, yeah.
06:28.89
Steve Barnes
Good point. I wanted to just um to add one more little point on top of that, since you're making me think about it now. I think I don't understand this, the whole division about it, because that's kind of what I thought the beauty of Little House, the franchise itself is.
06:47.87
Steve Barnes
Because you could be like extreme conservative and look at Little House and say, yes, that's how it's supposed to be. a man and a woman and their children and they pray and they respect their elders and they, you know, they, they're part of a community. That's, this is what, this is representative of what I believe.
07:08.08
Steve Barnes
And then a completely like progressive person could be like, yes, this is a guy who like, you know, loves his children and he'll do anything for them. And like, despite their differences and he'll accept any neighbor and he lives by the the Christian values that he preaches and he lives by on himself.
07:28.08
Steve Barnes
I just think that anybody from any political side could look at it and say, that is what I like. And that is what I, I don't know. i just, I just think it's a more of a unifying show.
07:39.42
Steve Barnes
So it very much confuses me when, um when divisions are brought up like this. So boo, Megan Kelly, boo, boo, boo.
07:45.24
Lindsey
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because, I mean, I know that you've just been posting things in the Facebook group, for instance, just saying, who's playing Charles? Who's playing Mr. Edwards? Who's playing Caroline?
07:58.65
Lindsey
And then there's so many people that will say, nope, nope, nope. Not going to watch it. I hate it already.
08:05.13
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
08:05.62
Lindsey
Like, based on what? Based on what exactly?
08:09.92
Steve Barnes
Yep.
08:09.94
Lindsey
It's okay to not want to watch it, but to but to like say you hate something. I mean, I know you're excited to get comments on your posts. So you're probably like, keep the comments coming. Even if even if it's negative, at least people are responding and and joining in the discussion.
08:25.10
Lindsey
And i guess I guess that is better than nothing when you post things and nobody responds.
08:29.67
Steve Barnes
Sure.
08:30.50
Lindsey
That's kind of sad. So even if their reactions are negative, it's um it means that they're invested and could be brought over to the to the light, maybe.
08:31.76
Steve Barnes
Right.
08:40.35
Steve Barnes
Sure. They care about the property and there's something about it that appeals to them.
08:40.95
Lindsey
Yeah. Yeah.
08:44.29
Steve Barnes
So I think this new show could offer them something, you know, give it a shot.
08:47.56
Lindsey
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
08:51.05
Steve Barnes
So yeah, I guess we're gonna wrap up this episode. um My plugs, you can find me over at SweetShotOfTimePod on Instagram, and you could definitely find me at Intravoid and check out some music at, check out Intravoid on Spotify, Apple Music. We have music everywhere and we're putting out new music. Lindsey's eagerly awaiting some new music come out and we actually have a um ah live band that we're gonna start playing shows in September. So that's very exciting. So those are my plugs. Check out Sweet Shot of Time, which you already are probably, and Intro Void. How about you, Lindsey?
09:26.81
Lindsey
My plug would be to, it's a little slow over over at one of my stories right now because I've been investing a lot of my time over on the Arts and Faith site, which Steve's familiar with that.
09:37.60
Steve Barnes
Yeah.
09:40.03
Lindsey
That's one of the other sites I help with. And we just released our top 25 spiritually significant films directed by women. We released that at the end of May.
09:51.96
Lindsey
um So I've been trying to advertise that and get the word out. And so if you just go to artsandfaith.com, right on the homepage, you can see all the lists we've ever made.
10:02.55
Lindsey
And the top 25 films directed by women is in our topical themed list. um Each film that that made it on the little onto the list has a juror appreciation that they one of the jurors wrote about it.
10:18.58
Lindsey
um So it's it's good recommendations, good films directed by women, which often get ah often get ignored in the big picture. um So i just, I would like to promote that list and that website.
10:33.63
Steve Barnes
Well, thank you very much. I'm going to check it out. So I hope everybody else follows my lead and does that too. um So yeah, next time you hear our voices, we'll have seen the season and we'll be talking about it to y'all. And that will be sometime July 9th or after. So until then, i hope you always find 10 cups and ribbons and...
10:58.50
Steve Barnes
Little houses on the prairie and all that stuff. So until next time, bye Lindsey. Bye everyone.
11:04.24
Lindsey
Bye.
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